Comments for gold content of 1888 elgin pocket watch with. These are not official british or swiss hallmarks, they are marks that the case maker has put onto the case that look sufficiently official that british customs and customers in britain would be convinced that the case was in fact nine carat gold. It appears to be 1908 the case is dueber waranted 20 years no 7,548,152 the only numbers i can find on dueber end at 3,980,000 in 1927. Illinois pocket watch with dueber case movement sn 4608783. At about this time an antitrust law was passed and the watch case manufacturers formed a boycott against dueber. The american case manufacturers used their trademarks on cases they made, hence you can tell from these marks and a few reference check from trademark books what the metal is. We also feature pocket watch glass display domes, and pocket watch chains. The customer must either rely on the veracity of those marks or make their own tests. The dueber watch case company was an important employer in canton, ohio during the late 1800s and the early 1900s. Illinois pocket watch with dueber case movement sn. Any time you see xx years, it means the case is gold filled and guaranteed not to wear through to show the brass beneath for xx years of use. The dueberhampden watch company was an american watch manufacturing company.
At the time he was working on the book british watchcase gold and silver marks 1670 to 1970. Dueber special railway swiss mechanical pocket watch high. Dueber watch company pocket watch dueber watch co military style pocket watch, swiss quartz movement, black dial with luminous hands, satin chrome plated steel open face case 122532 engraving available. Here are a few tips to find information about your pocket watch. Apr 03, 2011 i have a hampden 1902 watch in a dueber special case small sailboat with flowers engraved on the case. Help with dueber case marking solid or gf the ebay community. Buy dueber watch co gold plated hunting case pocket watch with swiss movement, roman numerals and other pocket watches at. Dueber watch company pocket watch dueber watch co heirloom quality pocket watch with swiss made mechanical movement special railway 24 hour montgomery style railroad dial chrome plated steel open face case high grade 17 jewel swiss made eta movement engraving available. Swiss hallmarks and other marks found in watch cases. Antique vintage dueber hampden pocket watch running circa 1891.
Shes written over 400 articles on antique collecting for the spruce crafts. They stayed separate until about 1925 when the companies were legally merged. Marks in watch cases hallmarks, sponsors marks, etc. Fairly nice condition with one small dent in the upper back. I wound and ran this watch for about 24 hours and it started up on its own when wound. Watch face reads the dueber watch co with an anchor, has a few hairline cracks from age. Many times an individual selected his movement and had it cased by the jeweler. Hampden pocket watch serial numbers use this table to look up the serial number of your hampden pocket watch and hence the year of manufacture. When looking for the number on your watch you should be looking at the serial number on the movement, not the case.
An antique gold filled hampden dueber mollystark womens pocket watch. Dueber founded the dueber watch case company in cincinnati, ohio to manufacture cases for fine watches. Some dueber case trade marks but certainly not all are shown in a 1904 ad. Within the clockworks, the pocket watch is marked metropolitan no 85283. What we believe about your works is, 16 size, 17 jewels, open face, nickel finish, adjusted, model 5, pendent set, and we believe wm. My question is thisand i will send links to photosthe case 14k goldfilled or 14k solid. He was a conductor for railroad passenger service back in the 1900 30s. Hampden movements were frequently offered factory fitted into dueber cases. This hunter pocket watch is designed with an foliate etched case.
In parallel with the development of the american watch manufacturing industry came a large number of companies producing watch cases. Choose from bonded leather, colorful leatherette, and other design styles. Over the years, weve discovered that our customers have some common questions about their vintage and antique watches. Watches by hourminsec products pocket watches hampden. The brand of the watch can also greatly impact the value. Our wide selection is eligible for free shipping and free returns. In 1886, dueber, who had been making cases for the hampden watch company, purchased a controlling interest in the company. Dueber watch company pocket watch dueber watch co pocket watch with swiss made movement, genuine mother of pearl dial, with moon phase, chrome plated steel case 342241 engraving available. He went bankrupt in 1927 and sold all of the watch making equipment to amtorg, a russian company. I have a hampden 1902 wat ch in a dueber special case small sailboat with flowers engraved on the case. The watches produced in the canton factory had the names hampden watch company, the letters hwco, john c. New listing antique hampden pocket watch 17j sz 16 movement 108 dueber 20 yr gold case. I have a hampden 1902 watch in a dueber special case small.
Model numbers were typically stamped inside the case back, as you can see in the picture at left. Buy dueber watch co steel hunting case pocket watch with swiss movement, roman numerals and other pocket watches at. Dueber swiss mechanical pocket watch, high polish chrome hunting case. Etsy is the home to thousands of handmade, vintage, and oneofakind products and gifts related to your search. Until the 1920s, cases were almost always made by different companies than those that made the watch movements, and watches could be cased at the factory, or by the distributor, or by the individual retailer at the point of sale.
So until there is a ruling by the greater judges of the pocket watch kingdom, let us use what we must to get the job done and. Dueber watch case serial numbers showing of 3 messages. Never use the serial number from the case or any other part. Hampden dueber watch company production dates by serial number table. Elgin watch identification guide waterstone watches. Most often these marks are found stamped into the metal of the main plate under the balance wheel, or in older watches on the main plate under the dial. Antique gold filled womens hampdendueber mollystark. Goldfilled marks, the illustrations for goldfilled dueber marks do not show the 14k stamping although there is a notation about the anchor being.
Describes most commonly used metals for vintage watch cases. The crown mark in the image is stamped twice inside the case back. How to identify a waltham pocket watch our pastimes. Some pocket watches have been converted to wrist watches.
Doxa art nouveau silver case german hallmarks running pocket watch. Hampden 23j railway mens fancy case running pocket. In a nutshell this story should interest people trying to find out more about the history of hampden watches, the dueber watch case co. No matter what youre looking for or where you are in the world, our global marketplace of sellers can help you find unique and affordable options. The marks are the best indication of the actual movement manufacturer. I have a hampden 1902 watch in a dueber special case. Listing of american watch case manufacturing companies. Antique 18 size gold filled display case pocket watch waltham. Dueber model in both 17j and 21j, the dueber watch company in 17 jewel, the hampden watch co. What we can tell you about your watch, your wadsworth case is not a dueber case.
How can i date a dueber watch case and identify material. Howard elgin national hamilton hampden illinois other. High jewel examples are fervently sought by pocket watch collectors. Always input the serial number from the pocket watch movement the mechanism of the watch. There are two main styles of pocket watch, the huntercase pocket watch and the. It has a sterling silver case, and i am wondering if anyone can help identify the hallmarks. Additionally, owners interested in information regarding the pocket watch case can determine the quality and rough date of production by identifying the grade of the case. Hampden dueber watch company production dates by serial number. About this time an antitrust law was passed and the watch case manufacturers formed a boycott against dueber. Dueber had established a company that made watch cases called the dueber watch case manufacturing company. However, on pages 3738, under, goldfilled marks, the illustrations for goldfilled dueber marks do not show the 14k stamping although there is a notation about the anchor being engraved for the goldfilled case stamping.
Dueberhampden molly stark gold filled pocket watch ebth. Get the best deals on hampden antique pocket watches with 17. It is fairly simple to confirm a watch is a waltham pocket watch and to identify the model and manufacturing date. Ive taken down notes on all the markings, but i dont know what they mean. The evidence ive gathered still leaves it up in the air, and im looking for a definitive answer. Based upon a much earlier discussion on the nawcc pocket watch. It is in answered by a verified antique expert we use cookies to give you the best possible experience on our website. Get the best deals on hampden antique pocket watches with 17 jewels when you shop the largest online selection at.
After a year of designing and building the lathes and machines to achieve seemingly impossible levels of precision, a team of watchmakers and mechanical engineers produced their first pocket watch movement, named for mayor b. This pocket watch case is a double hinged open face case made by dueber watch case compay. Info, specs, and value american antique pocket watches, with serial number lookups for manufacturers such as elgin, illinois, waltham, and hamilton. Some dueber case trade marks but certainly not all are shown in a 1904.
In 1931, the first state watch factory produced pocket watches that were presented at a. Hampden dueber watch company production dates by serial. Dueber pocket watch dueber was used as a trade name used on pocket watch movements manufacturered by hampden. Buy dueber special railway swiss mechanical pocket watch high polish chrome open face case usa. Dueber watch in antique pocket watches for sale ebay. A goldfilled, working molly stark dueberhampden railway pocket watch. Rockford watch co, illinois pocket watch 18s 9j dueber. My uncle has a pocket watch which he has had for a very long time. Dueber brought the dueber watch case company and hampden watch co.
The back of the metal case is marked dueber silverine 928840. Listing of 19th and 20th century american watch case companies including dates of operation, page 3. Featuring a pocket watch with a silvertone metal case and a white face. Dial names, except in the case of american watches, are often of little use in identifying the maker. What is the significance of the keystone watch case co. In order to remain in business, dueber bought the hampden watch co. In 1864, john dueber founded the dueber watch case company in newport, kentucky. This antique style offering from the dueber watch company is reminiscent of the antique american pocket watches produced in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Like any other collectors items, the oldest and rarest pieces are the most valuable, so it is important to know as much information as you can about a watch before buying or selling it. The case does not have 14k anywhere so is the mark dueber warranted 20 years solid 14k. Dueber watch co gold plated hunting case pocket watch with. Elgin vintage pocket pendant watch 0s 15j 377 keystone. I have a hampden watch co pocket watch to sell for a customer.
Model names were not stamped on the watches and our only clues to these is through other collectors, or through visually matching watches with advertisements and scarce catalog materials. Pocketwatch 101 materials used in pocketwatch cases. The front cover has a raised shield, the back cover is engraved with a masted ship. For european pocket watch cases, since the early 1600s, all solid precious metals were hallmarked. White dial with dark blue seconds and minute markings, and large black arabic. The large case is close to the size of the antique 16s size pocket watches from ball watch co, elgin, hamilton, hampden, illinois and waltham. This case is a plain polished case in great condition with no dents or dings just some tool marks from being opened over the years. Philip has also written books on watch case sponsors marks covering the earlier period of 1631 1720 and the watch case maker dennison. Dueber founded the dueber watch case company in cincinnati. All jewelry all newly listed all pocket watches all wrist watches american waltham ball e.
On these pages, weve provided short howto articles in an attempt to answer a few of the most common questions and help you to learn more about the proper care and handling of your vintage pocket watch. I know that it has a movement sn 4608783, the case says dueber 25 year gaurantee its sn is 11225098. Hampden watch company the hampden watch company originated in springfield, massachusetts in 1887 and later moved to canton, ohio in 1889. At the top of page 35, there is a note that states, have your watch case tested to make sure of gold quality or karat. This illinois hunter case pocket watch was special for a railroad company. Antique hampden pocket watch repair, mechanical hampden. I have here an elgin pocket watch in a dueber hunter case and i am wondering how to date and identify the case material. It took almost 30 boxcars to remove all the equipment when it left canton in 1931 along with 21 former employees of dueber hampden. Within the face are two arrow hour and minute hands and a separate secondhand dial. Please use appropriate caution with vendor sites which do not provide locations or phone numbers. Elgin national watch company serial number, elgin pocket watch. Beautifully crafted dueber case with initials kae engraved on the front and katie a. A pocket watch or pocketwatch is a watch that is made to be carried in a pocket, as opposed.
Always select the correct manufacturer, which is usually stamped on the watch movement or dial. Rockford watch co, illinois pocket watch 18s 9j dueber silverine case 1876 circa this is one of those fine large old rockford pocket watches. Pocket watch identification and value guide the spruce. Vintage 1897 elgin o size hunter pocket watch beautiful dueber case, serviced. In the case of a well known watch case maker relying on the marks will be safe, but one must always be alert to the fact that the marks might not be what they purport to be. Dueber watch co watches are made using swiss made movement and steel cases. The cases were produced using a range of metals, from nickel to 18k solid gold, and were marked. Except for sites in the nawcc domains, the nawcc does not endorse any of these sites or the products or services that may be offered. Learn how to tell if your watch case is gold or goldplated. Pocket watch identification and value guide learn about jewels, adjustments, and top brands. By the spring of 1888, the building was completed and the watch factory at springfield and the case factory at newport were moved to canton and merged into one.
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